Which HERO Fusion will get remade next?
VP25-JP001 Elemental HERO Thunder Giant – Voltic Thunder
Warrior/Fusion/Effect, LIGHT, Lv 6, ATK 2400, DEF 1500
2 “Elemental HERO” monsters with different Attributes
Must be Fusion Summoned. You can only use the 1st and 2nd effect of this card’s name each once per turn.
(1) If this card is Special Summoned and your opponent controls more cards than you do: You can destroy all other cards on the field.
(2) You can Tribute this card Fusion Summoned using a Normal Monster as material, then target 1 “Elemental HERO” monster in your GY; Special Summon it.
VP25-JP003 Light Water Dragon
Sea Serpent, WATER, Lv 4, ATK 1400, DEF 1300
This card’s name is always treated as “Water Dragon”. You can only use the effect of this card’s name once per turn.
(1) You can banish this card you control; Special Summon 3 Level 5 or lower WATER and/or WIND Dinosaur monsters from your Deck in Defense Position, but their effects are negated, also you cannot Special Summon from the Extra Deck for the rest of this turn, except Dinosaur and Sea Serpent monsters.
VP25-JP002 Drill Armed Dragon
Dragon/Effect, WIND, Lv 3, ATK 1100, DEF 400
You can only use the 1st and 2nd effect of this card’s name each once per turn.
(1) You can send this card and 1 other WIND monster from your hand to the GY; for the rest of this turn, all WIND Dragon monster you control will gain 300 ATK.
(2) You can banish any number of Dragon monsters that are Level 7 or higher and/or WIND from your GY; add 1 Dragon monster from your Deck to your hand with a Level equal to the number banished, except “Drill Armed Dragon”.
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At this point Konami is teasing us with Fire Dragon. Water Dragon has already gotten a baby and upgraded form.
GIVE ME TEMPEST OR GIVE ME DEATH
We still need Clay Guardian from the anime.
@Vemon
Kinda hard unless Metamorphosis gets an errata and is removed from the ban list.
I’m really happy, thank you Konami, you made me really happy with OCG/TCG.
I didn’t like the Armed Dragon, I liked the concept of HERO, being a retrained version of Giant Thunder, but I don’t know what to think of the effects, OK? But for me the big charm is the new Water Dragon, I loved it.
I get why Light Water Dragon is always treated as Water Dragon, but if Gunkan can have a monster’s name change in the Deck without breaking the card limit, there was no reason why this had to. The banish also goes against Bonding – D2O’s recovery. On top of negating the effects of the summoned monsters. It’s like Konami put effort in to not make this broken for whatever reason.
Drill Armed Dragon can be summoned with Flash and may see some situational use in Dragon Rulers since they want to banish themselves but idk.
Voltic Thunder is really good mostly for the second effect. You have to use a vanilla unfortunately but to revive any Elemental HERO is worth it.
It being named “Water Dragon” also means you can’t use the upgraded boss’ ability to summon out two Water Dragons for free unless you only run one of this.
Did a deck this bad really need another restriction?
“but if Gunkan can have a monster’s name change in the Deck”
That was my first thought but you beat me to it! So lame.
“vanilla unfortunately”
Nothing unfortunate. More support for normal heroes (N – HERO) is always welcome. Hero grey slime does not need more support.
@thebaseddd2 Are you saying Graydles are HEROs?
I really wish konami removes that annoying “All cards with the same name share the same limmit” with some future master rule change
It fells really unnessesary and a bit harmfull to the game even
They could still keep that limmit for certain cards by directly printing it in their effect, but having it as the standart is really annoying, and has shown so many times that some work around is required
Also as of yet i havent seen a single scenario where that limmit is actually required to hold some balance
Oh no, how bad would if be if you run run 9 of the bad harpies, or when you draw your 12th copy of umi
For the HERO, it would be better if it could summon ignoring conditions. That way you could revive other fusion HEROes.
The fact that it’s name is always treated as Water Dragon and it doesn’t completely lock you out of the Extra Deck (which Bastion never used) smells like a Fusion retrain of Water Dragon is on the horizon, that completely replaces the need to play any copies of the original.
He also didn’t use Water Dragon Cluster. The card is strong as you can use it’s effect to get Cluster out faster. If not it is some dino xyzs that are very powerful.
I’m just hoping that ancient gear get a new retrained card and/or a new fusion monster that references the show
Ancient Gear got 9 cards last year.
I like the route they’re going with these HERO retrains. A nice effect if you want to use any E-HEROs, and a nice bonus one if you’re using a vanilla one.
Wow, the F-Tier Water Dragon deck gets a card that would be mid in 2021. They really do hate Misawa don’t they?
The dragons are too generic for my liking, especially Drill. I was hoping it would actually mention something about armed dragons in its text, even ojamas or Mefist the Infernal General would be welcome. I guess it was too far-fetched to hope water dragon would find room in its text to support Litmus Doom Swordsman.
Water Dragon Cluster should’ve been a fusion or would that be a flavor fail?
Love thunder giant becoming a field nuke and water dragon getting a 1 card combo to bring it out.
Don’t care much for the armed dragon. We have enough already
Meh
I smell Dragon Rulers.
Thunder giant can get its first effect off instant contact and you can chain block with cross keeper too
Funnily enough, the water dragon is a very solid card… just not in the water dragon deck
While you technically can summon it out using any of the bonding cards, its just way more efficient to use any of the other million good water or sea serpent support cards?
And once you done so, why would you waste other deck spaces on any of the other chem dinosaur cards? You can just use any combination of wind and water dinosaurs from your deck for any of your now many possible link, xyz, and synchro plays.
Even if you dont run any sea serpernt or water suppoort cards in your dinosaur deck, having a few copies of this card gives you a solid normal summon option
But in its native deck… unless konami prints some more very generic support (along the lines of this card) for the archetype (e.g. a bonding card which sends any 3 dinosaurs from the deck to the gy), the archetype itself will stay useless… also they need a card which turns all opponents monsters into fire pyro
They completely hoed Water Dragon
IT’S SO MID
The Thunder Giant retrain is overall greatly designed & a nice edition to EHeros.
Konami better have something to go with the retrained Water Dragon, or it’ll get abused outside of its intended deck by a lot.
Besides the obvious Dragon Ruler support, an interesting application I see for Drill Armed Dragon is the fact that you can theoretically play mill Floo birds with Dragon tech cards that help best with ’em (probably gonna be DRuler Tempest go brr though unfortunately).
Is Obsidim the Ashened City the ultimate combo!? Now that I think of it…
Water Dragon – FIRE & Pyro
Oxygeddon – Pyro only
Carboneddon – FIRE only
Gotta love the inconsistency. In retrospect DHO’s sorch didn’t make much sense at the time. Of course a discard outlet or tribute fodder for litmus ritual helps but, within a vacuum, there’s no real benefit from having water dragon or cluster in your hand. Ok, at least the later can’t be in the deck to function with DHO.
I have a feeling the next E.HERO Fusion Retain will be “Rampart Blaster”. Cause it a Fusion of “Clayman” and “Burstinax”, the materials used for “Thunder Giant” and “Flame Wingman”, as well as has an Evil Hero counterpart “Infernal Sniper”. Speaking of which, I can see the “Lighting Golem” might be just around the corner.
Granted this is all hypothetical. But I think it’s a fair estimate of the pattern so far.
If they’re going in order of anime appearance, then Mudballman is next, lol.
Zzzzz
What a waste of time and resources
I imagine they will retrain Phoenix Guy with its signature move and an effect thats connects Elemental with Destiny Hero.
No love for cyber dragons……. We barely got anything.
I hate those attack name variant… it’s too stupid…