{"id":5021,"date":"2014-03-24T15:41:45","date_gmt":"2014-03-24T20:41:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ygorganization.com\/?p=5021"},"modified":"2014-03-24T19:30:08","modified_gmt":"2014-03-25T00:30:08","slug":"ocg-vs-tcg-forbidden-lists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ygorganization.com\/staging\/?p=5021","title":{"rendered":"OCG vs TCG Forbidden Lists"},"content":{"rendered":"

Which would you rather play in?<\/p>\n


\nThe TCG and OCG have had lists limiting which cards you can use since the 20th century, and until 2003, those lists were always the same. 2003 until 2013 would end up having the lists always the same, changing on the same day, except for the inclusion of one card; sixth sense. This was due to Sixth Sense not being released in the TCG, and when it eventually did debut, it was not immediately forbidden the way it was in the OCG.<\/p>\n

However, in September 2013, for the first time ever, the TCG got to take control of the list for their own region. No more things like limiting divine wind due to harpie dancer, when harpie dancer isn’t even out! No more limiting or semi-limiting a chunk of cards just to keep Shueisha’s promos legal in the game.<\/p>\n

No more Shock master or Heavy Storm.<\/em><\/p>\n

It was a huge change, and since then, as lists have passed, there’s been quite a few number of differences between the two lists.<\/p>\n

Forbidden card Differences
\n

Spoiler<\/summary>OCG
\nMAGICIAN OF FAITH
\nWIND-UP HUNTER\n

TCG List
\nELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS
\nMORPHING JAR
\nMORPHING JAR #2
\nDARK STRIKE FIGHTER
\nTRISHULA, DRAGON OF THE ICE BARRIER
\nNUMBER 16: SHOCK MASTER
\nWIND-UP CARRIER ZENMAITY
\nDRAGON RAVINE
\nHEAVY STORM
\nMONSTER REBORN
\nPOT OF AVARICE
\nSUPER REJUVENATION
\nSELF-DESTRUCT BUTTON
\nSOLEMN JUDGMENT<\/p><\/details><\/p>\n

Wow, that’s a bigger difference than I initially thought when first making this article. Look at all the cards we have forbidden here in the TCG that Japan has legal right now! Despite this, we have Magician of Faith and they don’t. <\/p>\n

Limited Cards
\n

Spoiler<\/summary>
\nOCG List
\nBROTHERHOOD OF THE FIRE FIST – ROOSTER
\nCYBER-STEIN
\nELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS
\nELEMENTAL HERO BUBBLEMAN
\nEVILSWARM OPHION
\nMERMAIL ABYSSTEUS
\nMEZUKI
\nMORPHING JAR
\nNECROFACE
\nT.G. STRIKER
\nWIND-UP SHARK
\nTRISHULA, DRAGON OF THE ICE BARRIER
\nNUMBER 11: BIG EYE
\nWIND-UP CARRIER ZENMAITY\n

CARD DESTRUCTION
\nDIVINE WIND OF MIST VALLEY
\nGATEWAY OF THE SIX
\nHEAVY STORM
\nMONSTER REBORN
\nPOT OF AVARICE
\nPRIMAL SEED
\nSUPER REJUVENATION<\/p>\n

ABYSS-SPHERE
\nSOLEMN JUDGMENT<\/p>\n

TCG List
\nBROTHERHOOD OF THE FIRE FIST – SPIRIT
\nCOACH SOLDIER WOLFBARK
\nDARK ARMED DRAGON
\nDEBRIS DRAGON
\nDEEP SEA DIVA
\nGLADIATOR BEAST BESTIARI
\nGORZ THE EMISSARY OF DARKNESS
\nHONEST
\nMAGICIAN OF FAITH
\nMERMAIL ABYSSGUNDE
\nNEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLE
\nRESCUE RABBIT
\nTHUNDER KING RAI-OH
\nWIND-UP MAGICIAN
\nEVIGISHKI MIND AUGUS
\nDEWLOREN, TIGER KING OF THE ICE BARRIER<\/p>\n

DIMENSIONAL FISSURE
\nFINAL COUNTDOWN
\nFOOLISH BURIAL
\nGOLD SARCOPHAGUS
\nREKINDLING
\nROYAL TRIBUTE
\nSACRED SWORD OF SEVEN STARS
\nSPELLBOOK OF FATE<\/p>\n

BOTTOMLESS TRAP HOLE
\nCOMPULSORY EVACUATION DEVICE
\nERADICATOR EPIDEMIC VIRUS
\nINFERNITY BARRIER
\nMACRO COSMOS
\nSOUL DRAIN
\nTORRENTIAL TRIBUTE<\/p>\n

<\/p><\/details><\/p>\n

Holy crap that’s a lot of difference. Cards that are forbidden here are at 1 there, cards that are forbidden there are at 1 here, We only have 1 bestiari, they only have 1 T.G. Striker! Traps stand out as the biggest difference. Due to the absence of heavy storm, to prevent a ‘set 5, go’ format, our backrow took an absolute pounding. I completely forgot that the OCG still has two Rescue Rabbits. It’s interesting that though we both put Dragoons to 1, they elected to hit Abyss Sphere and Abyssteus, whereas we hit Deep Sea Diva, and Abyssgunde. <\/p>\n

Semi-Limited
\n

Spoiler<\/summary>
\nOCG List
\nARCHLORD KRISTYA
\nDARK ARMED DRAGON
\nDESTINY HERO \u2013 MALICIOUS
\nHONEST
\nPLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIE
\nRESCUE RABBIT
\nDEWLOREN, TIGER KING OF THE ICE BARRIER
\nA HERO LIVES
\nBLACK WHIRLWIND
\nFIRE FORMATION \u2013 TENKI
\nMAGICAL STONE EXCAVATION
\nROYAL TRIBUTE
\nSACRED SWORD OF SEVEN STARS
\nBOTTOMLESS TRAP HOLE\n

TCG List
\nNECROFACE
\nADVANCED RITUAL ART
\nREASONING
\nDIMENSIONAL PRISON
\nMIRROR FORCE
\n<\/p><\/details><\/p>\n

Here we see a few leftover results of Heavy storm and Stratos being forbidden. Their second bottomless, only being allowed two Malicious, and two A hero lives.<\/p>\n

But wait, what about the cards not listed yet? There are cards that the OCG is allowed three copies of, that we’re only allowed as low as 1 of. In fact, one of their unlimited cards is flat out forbidden here! Though we have many cards at 3 that they don’t, as well. This is the most interesting part of the list for me.<\/p>\n

Spoiler<\/summary>
\nOCG list
\nBROTHER HOOD OF THE FIRE FIST – SPIRIT
\nCOACH SOLDIER WOLFBARK
\nDEBRIS DRAGON
\nDEEP SEA DIVA
\nGLADIATOR BEAST BESTIARI
\nGORZ THE EMISSARY OF DARKNESS
\nMORPHING JAR #2
\nMERMAIL ABYSSGUNDE
\nNEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLE
\nTHUNDER KING RAI-OH
\nWIND-UP MAGICIAN
\nEVIGISHKI MIND AUGUS
\nDARK STRIKE FIGHTER
\nNUMBER 16: SHOCK MASTER
\nADVANCED RITUAL ART
\nDRAGON RAVINE
\nDIMENSIONAL FISSURE
\nFINAL COUNTDOWN
\nREASONING
\nREKINDLING
\nSPELLBOOK OF FATE
\nCOMPULSORY EVACUATION DEVICE
\nDIMENSIONAL PRISON
\nERADICATOR EPIDEMIC VIRUS
\nINFERNITY BARRIER
\nMACRO COSMOS
\nMIRROR FORCE
\nSELF-DESTRUCT BUTTON
\nSOUL DRAIN
\nTORRENTAL TRIBUTE\n

TCG LIST
\nARCHLORD KRISTYA
\nMEZUKI
\nPLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIE
\nT.G. STRIKER
\nFIRE FORMATION – TENKI
\nMAGICAL STONE EXCAVACTION
\nPRIMAL SEED
\nDESTINY HERO MALICIOUS
\nA HERO LIVES
\nBLACK WHIRLWIND
\n<\/p><\/details>\n

Good to be a Blackwing player in TCG, or a Glad beast player in the OCG, I suppose.<\/p>\n

So what do you think? Which format would you rather play in?<\/p>\n

Full lists of both card games
\n

Spoiler<\/summary>OCG List
\nForbidden (Zero copies)\n

BURNER, DRAGON RULER OF SPARKS
\nCHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON – ENVOY OF THE END
\nCYBER JAR
\nDARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOS
\nDESTINY HERO – DISK COMMANDER
\nFIBER JAR
\nFISHBORG BLASTER
\nGLOW-UP BULB
\nLIGHTNING, DRAGON RULER OF DRAFTS
\nMAGICAL SCIENTIST
\nMAGICIAN OF FAITH
\nMAKYURA THE DESTRUCTOR
\nMIND MASTER
\nREACTAN, DRAGON RULER OF PEBBLES
\nRESCUE CAT
\nSANGAN
\nSINISTER SERPENT
\nSTREAM, DRAGON RULER OF DROPLETS
\nSUBSTITOAD
\nTRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS
\nVICTORY DRAGON
\nWIND-UP HUNTER
\nWITCH OF THE BLACK FOREST
\nYATA-GARASU
\nTHOUSAND-EYES RESTRICT
\nBRIONAC, DRAGON OF THE ICE BARRIER
\nGOYO GUARDIAN
\nBRAIN CONTROL
\nBUTTERFLY DAGGER – ELMA
\nCARD OF SAFE RETURN
\nCHANGE OF HEART
\nCOLD WAVE
\nCONFISCATION
\nDELINQUENT DUO
\nDIMENSION FUSION
\nFUTURE FUSION
\nGIANT TRUNADE
\nGRACEFUL CHARITY
\nHARPIE’S FEATHER DUSTER
\nLAST WILL
\nMASS DRIVER
\nMETAMORPHOSIS
\nMIRAGE OF NIGHTMARE
\nPAINFUL CHOICE
\nPREMATURE BURIAL
\nTEMPLE OF THE KINGS
\nTHE FORCEFUL SENTRY
\nPOT OF GREED
\nRAIGEKI
\nSNATCH STEAL
\nSPELLBOOK OF JUDGMENT
\nCRUSH CARD VIRUS
\nEXCHANGE OF THE SPIRIT
\nIMPERIAL ORDER
\nLAST TURN
\nRETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSION
\nRING OF DESTRUCTION
\nROYAL OPPRESSION
\nSIXTH SENSE
\nTRAP DUSTSHOOT
\nTIME SEAL
\nULTIMATE OFFERING<\/p>\n

Limited (1 copy)<\/p>\n

EXODIA THE FORBIDDEN ONE
\nLEFT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
\nLEFT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
\nRIGHT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
\nRIGHT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
\nATLANTEAN DRAGOONS
\nBLACK LUSTER SOLDIER – ENVOY OF THE BEGINNING
\nBLACKWING – GALE THE WHIRLWIND
\nBROTHERHOOD OF THE FIRE FIST – ROOSTER
\nBLASTER, DRAGON RULER OF INFERNOS
\nCYBER-STEIN
\nDANDYLION
\nELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS
\nELEMENTAL HERO BUBBLEMAN
\nEVILSWARM OPHION
\nGENEX ALLY BIRDMAN
\nINZEKTOR DRAGONFLY
\nINZEKTOR HORNET
\nMERMAIL ABYSSTEUS
\nMEZUKI
\nMORPHING JAR
\nNECROFACE
\nNIGHT ASSAILANT
\nRED-EYES DARKNESS METAL DRAGON
\nREDOX, DRAGON RULER OF BOULDERS
\nT.G. STRIKER
\nTEMPEST, DRAGON RULER OF STORMS
\nTIDAL, DRAGON RULER OF WATERFALLS
\nWIND-UP SHARK
\nEVIGISHKI GUSTKRAKEN
\nLEGENDARY SIX SAMURAI – SHI EN
\nFORMULA SYNCHRON
\nT.G. HYPER LIBRARIAN
\nTRISHULA, DRAGON OF THE ICE BARRIER
\nNUMBER 11: BIG EYE
\nWIND-UP CARRIER ZENMAITY
\nALLURE OF DARKNESS
\nBOOK OF MOON
\nBURIAL FROM A DIFFERENT DIMENSION
\nCARD DESTRUCTION
\nCHARGE OF THE LIGHT BRIGADE
\nDARK HOLE
\nDIVINE WIND OF MIST VALLEY
\nFOOLISH BURIAL
\nGATEWAY OF THE SIX
\nGOLD SARCOPHAGUS
\nHEAVY STORM
\nINFERNITY LAUNCHER
\nLIMITER REMOVAL
\nMIND CONTROL
\nMONSTER GATE
\nMONSTER REBORN
\nONE DAY OF PEACE
\nONE FOR ONE
\nPOT OF AVARICE
\nPRIMAL SEED
\nREINFORCEMENT OF THE ARMY
\nSUPER REJUVENATION
\nABYSS-SPHERE
\nCEASEFIRE
\nMAGICAL EXPLOSION
\nSOLEMN JUDGMENT
\nSOLEMN WARNING
\nTHE TRANSMIGRATION PROPHECY
\nWALL OF REVEALING LIGHT<\/p>\n

Semi-Limited (2 copies)<\/p>\n

ARCHLORD KRISTYA
\nCARD TROOPER
\nCHAOS SORCERER
\nDARK ARMED DRAGON
\nDESTINY HERO \u2013 MALICIOUS
\nHONEST
\nLONEFIRE BLOSSOM
\nPLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIE
\nREBORN TENGU
\nRESCUE RABBIT
\nSUMMONER MONK
\nTRAGOEDIA
\nDEWLOREN, TIGER KING OF THE ICE BARRIER
\nA HERO LIVES
\nBLACK WHIRLWIND
\nCHAIN STRIKE
\nFIRE FORMATION \u2013 TENKI
\nHIERATIC SEAL OF CONVOCATION
\nMAGICAL STONE EXCAVATION
\nROYAL TRIBUTE
\nSACRED SWORD OF SEVEN STARS
\nBOTTOMLESS TRAP HOLE
\nOJAMA TRIO<\/p>\n

Unlimited (3 copies)<\/p>\n

DEBRIS DRAGON
\nGLADIATOR BEAST BESTIARI
\nGORZ THE EMISSARY OF DARKNESS
\nNEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLE
\nTHE AGENT OF MYSTERY – EARTH
\nTHUNDER KING RAI-OH
\nTOUR GUIDE FROM THE UNDERWORLD
\nTSUKUYOMI
\nWIND-UP MAGICIAN
\nDARK STRIKE FIGHTER (Text updated to \u201cMain Phase 1\u2033 and \u201cThe Effect of \u201cDark Strike Fighter\u201d can only be used Once Per Turn\u201d.)
\nADVANCED RITUAL ART
\nE \u2013 EMERGENCY CALL
\nPOT OF DUALITY
\nREASONING
\nSCAPEGOAT
\nMIRROR FORCE
\nTORRENTAL TRIBUTE<\/p>\n

TCG LIST<\/p>\n

Forbidden (Zero copies)<\/p>\n

BURNER, DRAGON RULER OF SPARKS
\nCHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON – ENVOY OF THE END
\nCYBER JAR
\nCYBER-STEIN
\nDARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOS
\nDESTINY HERO – DISK COMMANDER
\nELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS
\nFIBER JAR
\nFISHBORG BLASTER
\nGLOW-UP BULB
\nLIGHTNING, DRAGON RULER OF DRAFTS
\nMAGICAL SCIENTIST
\nMAKYURA THE DESTRUCTOR
\nMIND MASTER
\nMORPHING JAR
\nMORPHING JAR #2
\nREACTAN, DRAGON RULER OF PEBBLES
\nRESCUE CAT
\nSANGAN
\nSINISTER SERPENT
\nSTREAM, DRAGON RULER OF DROPLETS
\nSUBSTITOAD
\nTRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS
\nVICTORY DRAGON
\nWITCH OF THE BLACK FOREST
\nYATA-GARASU
\nTHOUSAND-EYES RESTRICT
\nBRIONAC, DRAGON OF THE ICE BARRIER
\nDARK STRIKE FIGHTER
\nGOYO GUARDIAN
\nTRISHULA, DRAGON OF THE ICE BARRIER
\nNUMBER 16: SHOCK MASTER
\nWIND-UP CARRIER ZENMAITY
\nBRAIN CONTROL
\nBUTTERFLY DAGGER – ELMA
\nCARD DESTRUCTION
\nCARD OF SAFE RETURN
\nCHANGE OF HEART
\nCOLD WAVE
\nCONFISCATION
\nDELINQUENT DUO
\nDIMENSION FUSION
\nDRAGON RAVINE
\nFUTURE FUSION
\nGATEWAY OF THE SIX
\nGIANT TRUNADE
\nGRACEFUL CHARITY
\nHARPIE’S FEATHER DUSTER
\nHEAVY STORM
\nLAST WILL
\nMASS DRIVER
\nMETAMORPHOSIS
\nMIRAGE OF NIGHTMARE
\nMONSTER REBORN
\nPAINFUL CHOICE
\nPOT OF AVARICE
\nPOT OF GREED
\nPREMATURE BURIAL
\nRAIGEKI
\nSNATCH STEAL
\nSPELLBOOK OF JUDGMENT
\nSUPER REJUVENATION
\nTEMPLE OF THE KINGS
\nTHE FORCEFUL SENTRY
\nCRUSH CARD VIRUS
\nEXCHANGE OF THE SPIRIT
\nIMPERIAL ORDER
\nLAST TURN
\nRETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSION
\nRING OF DESTRUCTION
\nROYAL OPPRESSION
\nSELF-DESTRUCT BUTTON
\nSIXTH SENSE
\nSOLEMN JUDGMENT
\nTIME SEAL
\nTRAP DUSTSHOOT
\nULTIMATE OFFERING<\/p>\n

Limited (1 copy)<\/p>\n

LEFT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
\nLEFT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
\nRIGHT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
\nRIGHT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
\nATLANTEAN DRAGOONS
\nBLACK LUSTER SOLDIER – ENVOY OF THE BEGINNING
\nBLACKWING – GALE THE WHIRLWIND
\nBLASTER, DRAGON RULER OF INFERNOS
\nBROTHERHOOD OF THE FIRE FIST – SPIRIT
\nCOACH SOLDIER WOLFBARK
\nDANDYLION
\nDARK ARMED DRAGON
\nDEBRIS DRAGON
\nDEEP SEA DIVA
\nEXODIA THE FORBIDDEN ONE
\nGENEX ALLY BIRDMAN
\nGLADIATOR BEAST BESTIARI
\nGORZ THE EMISSARY OF DARKNESS
\nHONEST
\nINZEKTOR DRAGONFLY
\nINZEKTOR HORNET
\nMAGICIAN OF FAITH
\nMERMAIL ABYSSGUNDE
\nNEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLE
\nNIGHT ASSAILANT
\nRED-EYES DARKNESS METAL DRAGON
\nREDOX, DRAGON RULER OF BOULDERS
\nRESCUE RABBIT
\nTEMPEST, DRAGON RULER OF STORMS
\nTHUNDER KING RAI-OH
\nTIDAL, DRAGON RULER OF WATERFALLS
\nWIND-UP MAGICIAN
\nEVIGISHKI GUSTKRAKEN
\nEVIGISHKI MIND AUGUS
\nDEWLOREN, TIGER KING OF THE ICE BARRIER
\nFORMULA SYNCHRON
\nLEGENDARY SIX SAMURAI – SHI EN
\nT.G. HYPER LIBRARIAN
\nALLURE OF DARKNESS
\nBOOK OF MOON
\nBURIAL FROM A DIFFERENT DIMENSION
\nCHARGE OF THE LIGHT BRIGADE
\nDARK HOLE
\nDIMENSIONAL FISSURE
\nDIVINE WIND OF MIST VALLEY
\nFINAL COUNTDOWN
\nFOOLISH BURIAL
\nGOLD SARCOPHAGUS
\nINFERNITY LAUNCHER
\nLIMITER REMOVAL
\nMIND CONTROL
\nMONSTER GATE
\nONE DAY OF PEACE
\nONE FOR ONE
\nREINFORCEMENT OF THE ARMY
\nREKINDLING
\nROYAL TRIBUTE
\nSACRED SWORD OF SEVEN STARS
\nSPELLBOOK OF FATE
\nBOTTOMLESS TRAP HOLE
\nCEASEFIRE
\nCOMPULSORY EVACUATION DEVICE
\nERADICATOR EPIDEMIC VIRUS
\nINFERNITY BARRIER
\nMACRO COSMOS
\nMAGICAL EXPLOSION
\nSOLEMN WARNING
\nSOUL DRAIN
\nTHE TRANSMIGRATION PROPHECY
\nTORRENTIAL TRIBUTE
\nWALL OF REVEALING LIGHT<\/p>\n

Semi-Limited (2 copies)<\/p>\n

CARD TROOPER
\nCHAOS SORCERER
\nLONEFIRE BLOSSOM
\nNECROFACE
\nREBORN TENGU
\nSUMMONER MONK
\nTRAGOEDIA
\nADVANCED RITUAL ART
\nCHAIN STRIKE
\nHIERATIC SEAL OF CONVOCATION
\nREASONING
\nDIMENSIONAL PRISON
\nMIRROR FORCE
\nOJAMA TRIO<\/p>\n

Unlimited (3 copies)<\/p>\n

ARCHLORD KRISTYA
\nMEZUKI
\nPLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIE
\nT.G. STRIKER
\nTOUR GUIDE FROM THE UNDERWORLD
\nCONSTELLAR PTOLEMY M7
\nFIRE FORMATION – TENKI
\nMAGICAL STONE EXCAVACTION
\nPRIMAL SEED<\/p><\/details><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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